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Postby Kyrs on Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:17 pm

Can anybody suggest a generator that would work perfectly with my VFX 3648 Inverter for the gen auto start function on the mate?
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Re: GEN START

Postby Kent Osterberg on Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:44 am

All new Kohler and Onan generators are available with two-wire remote start circuitry.
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Re: GEN START

Postby DennisM on Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:36 pm

If you prefer longevity, low fuel consumption, 1800 rpm's.... a diesel IS in your future. Hardy Diesel / Solar is a reliable company.

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Re: GEN START

Postby Vic on Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:15 am

Hi, Welcome to the Forum,

The answer to this question is very subjective. It all depends ... If you will use a generator many hours per year, then a Diesel is a good choice. For less-frequent use, an LP (propane) fueled genset might be just fine.

When you get a chance if you could update your Profile, or Signature the added info will help others give appropriate advice, without you having to manually fill in this info on na case-by-case basis.

I assume that you are Off-Grid, but the demands palced on your system, and the ability of your system to produce Renewable Energy can have a large effect on the generator required. Other factors include the availability of service from factory-trained personned, vs DIY service. If you do not want to dispense lfluid fuel into the genset, this, too, will affect the choice.

For Autostart, two-wire start, built into the genset by its manufacturer will be important.

In general, try to buy a name brand genset. If possible buy one that has been designed and packaged by this name brand manufacturer, if you are Off Grid, and plan to stay that way for a decade or more. If your site is a weekend cabin, perhap

The Honda Inverter generators are great as an initial/backup/portable generator, which has great utility, BUT have not seen any of these with two-wire autostart. The EU 6500isa Does have an auto choke, at least, but the Honda remote start kit requires three wires IIRC. With more info on your exact situation will help you get the best advice.

Personally, here, have a Diesel as the main genset, and several of the Honda Inverter types for use around the property ... YMMV. Good Luck, Vic
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Re: GEN START

Postby lala on Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:01 pm

My generac has a 4 wire start, is there any way to get this down to a 2 wire start so I can use the autostart feature?
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Re: GEN START

Postby crewzer on Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:44 pm

OutBack typically suggests Atkinson interface products. See: http://atkinsonelectronics.com/list.asp?lt=gen

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Re: GEN START

Postby blackswan555 on Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:17 am

Try to make sure it does not have it`s own cool down time built in to the gen, The FX does not like it,
Have a good one.
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Re: GEN START

Postby HughF on Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:11 pm

blackswan555 wrote:Try to make sure it does not have it`s own cool down time built in to the gen, The FX does not like it,
Have a good one.
Tim


Is this because of the following scenario:

1. FX tells the genset to turn off, drops the input and switches loads to the inverter/battery
2. Genset enters cool down phase but is still outputting 220v or whatever
3. FX 'sees' 220v at it's input and decides to connect to it
4. Just as it's connected, the genset powers off and the lights then flicker etc...

I had this happening on a system I helped configure earlier this year and I thought this was the cause but never found any documentation to back up my theory.

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Re: GEN START

Postby blackswan555 on Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:50 am

Spot on Huge !
The are two way`s to get rid of it, disable the gen cool down in the gen it-self or add a contactor (large relay) driven off the aux ( if you chop the gen before it picks it back up , it is seamless) , You can get it very close by tweaking the ADV/FX/ generator AC 2 transfer delay down to as little as works fine ( I have 2 set @ 3 and 1 set @ 1 cycle`s, ) you may get a little flicker of an error occasionally on change over, but if you look the other way :smile: , It does not seem to bother it, Also set the voltage lower limit to as close as you can get away with, I can still just notice it, My customers, their pc`s, plasma`s etc do not,
There is no setting in outback to sort it.

Have a good one
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Re: Wired GEN START Honda EU3000is Remote

Postby avidflyier on Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:30 am

Good news!
Atkinson Electronics, Inc has an adapter to start the Honda EU3000is from the outback VFX3648 inverter or any other OB inverter.
The module is a GSCM-mini about $174.00 They would not ship to me in Big Lake Alaska so we sent it to my daughter in Va. Go figure!
http://www.atkinsonelectronics.com
The connections look difficult, but on close reading it is actually fairly simple.
I ordered one specifically set up for Honda EU3000is.

Pinellis Power Products sells an auto choke. Now I can leave home in the cold dark days of December, for a few days.
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