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The Golden State

Post by raysun » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:45 pm

2,000,000 Californians are without power at the start of a heat wave.

Its a good time to have renewable energy.

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Re: The Golden State

Post by EA6LE-ONE » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:14 pm

Many do have solar power in California but only few can use it when grid is down.

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Re: The Golden State

Post by provo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:58 pm

raysun wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:45 pm
2,000,000 Californians are without power at the start of a heat wave.

Its a good time to have renewable energy.
Fortunately I'm not in a blackout area, but it's 100° here and totally socked in under a heavy cloud layer! Very weird -- like living in the Amazon rainforest or something. With only grid to power the A/C my utility consumption has jumped 4X since a few days ago. Really very unusual....

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Re: The Golden State

Post by pss » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:17 pm

Non-golden stater's please understand the following:

California is a very diverse geographical state. The mountains, valleys and ocean and deserts make for a climate experience like no other. As a result, burning of fossil fuels or any kind has resulted in air inversions and severe smog that made living in the state just down right unhealthy. The state government realized that and responded to the needs of it' citizens. Clean air rules were promoted, electric cars, fuel cell cars, pollution control and emission's systems on all vehicles and engines of almost any size, the promotion of clean renewable energy to replace the burning of fossil fuels by utilities and then the decommissioning of nuclear power plants in an earthquake prone state so there is no Fukishima in the USA. Never in this plan was the goal to make individual home owners their own independent utilities. The incentives were in the form of rebates for solar and electric cars as well as water heaters, air conditioners, etc. The stick so to speak was in the form of very expensive utility rates to punish people who don't get on board. And, so as not to make the lives of the poorer citizens more miserable, programs were created to install solar, AC and electric cars and fuel efficient vehicles in the homes of middle and lower income families. Now, over the past 20 years, the climate has changed (for whatever reason you believe) and power demand is very high in worsening heat waves. These heat waves are associated with more days and more humidity. So in spite of the efforts of many millions of people, the transformation to entirely renewable energy is a work in progress still and the necessity for electricity at night still exists until storage capacity is built out.

In our own home in May of this year, we completely rebuilt our ventilation systems to be able to reduce our energy consumption and cool our home. That cost many thousands of dollars as you can imagine. But before one chastises the state for not being able to completely power everyone in an extreme heat wave, just remember that your state is next from heat waves to drought, to floods, to hurricanes and tornadoes and blizzards. California is way ahead of everyone else and your states out to take action now. A rolling blackout lasting up to 2 hours is not too much of a price to pay along the road to a bettery energy grid and fresh air to breath and water to drink to help stave off Covid 19.

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Re: The Golden State

Post by AllPawDrive » Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:38 pm

Is there a couch big enough for California to settle into and talk through it’s problems?

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Re: The Golden State

Post by provo » Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:24 pm

AllPawDrive wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:38 pm
Is there a couch big enough for California to settle into and talk through it’s problems?
Ha, Ha! The biggest problem is it should really be a country, but Washington wants all the money and will never agree to a divorce settlement! Now we better get off politics here ....

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Re: The Golden State

Post by pss » Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:45 pm

Remember Non Californians, California is home to Edwards air Force Base, Marine Corp Air Station Miramar, Camp Pendleton, Marine station in Yermo and three Navy air craft carriers and their supporting fleets. Rest of country better be nice.

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Re: The Golden State

Post by raysun » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:08 pm

pss wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:45 pm
Remember Non Californians, California is home to Edwards air Force Base, Marine Corp Air Station Miramar, Camp Pendleton, Marine station in Yermo and three Navy air craft carriers and their supporting fleets. Rest of country better be nice.
🤣🤣

and the 5th largest economy in the world.

Folks love to hate living there, but live there anyway due to the quality of life.

During over 50 years of West Coast road trips, I've driven over 80% of the CA designated highways, and enjoyed every mile of them.

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Re: The Golden State

Post by pss » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:22 pm

Not to mention the large numbers of grocery stores from which to choose, the great selection of farm fresh produce mostly locally grown and not sitting in a tractor trailer for 4 days before it gets to the warehouse distribution center.
California cheeses, meats, wines, fruits, vegetables and great chefs. And Pacific seafood.

And outdoor activities to satisfy anyone.
Plenty of places for the left and the right to stay apart and share all the good things.

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Re: The Golden State

Post by SandyP » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:59 am

raysun wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:08 pm
Folks love to hate living there,
I bet a few are not enjoying it at the moment (heat and power cuts) . Temp in Death Valley made the news here in Aus : https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-17/ ... h/12566678

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Re: The Golden State

Post by pss » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:45 am

Death Valley is a national park in the desert. Nobody lives there. It is the area if land known as being the lowest point below sea level on earth.

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Re: The Golden State

Post by raysun » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:38 am

SandyP wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:59 am
raysun wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:08 pm
Folks love to hate living there,
I bet a few are not enjoying it at the moment (heat and power cuts) . Temp in Death Valley made the news here in Aus : https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-17/ ... h/12566678
We drove through Death Valley in 110°F heat. That was way more than 🔥 enough.

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